In this guide, we’ll walk you through how we use NINA with a Paramount MX+ and TheSkyX to control the mount. It is NOT required to use a Paramount mount for TheSkyX so we’ll try to cover the setup in a generic way so anyone using TheSkyX with NINA can follow along and use this amazing software combo.
FYI, We’ll shorten TheSkyX to “TSX” interchangeably through this post just for brevity sake.
Why use TheSkyX With NINA?
I’ve been asked how or why we use TSX with NINA, and the simple answer is that TSX acting as a mount controller is extremely powerful. Much of the capability that comes with the Paramount series of mounts from Software Bisque is nicely managed through this complex but thorough piece of software so it is required in that case. Otherwise, anyone can run TSX with any supported mount to take advantage of many of the TSX features.
At first, it did seem odd to have to install the entire suite of tools to get my mount working, but now that I have it running – and especially now that I’m remote, I’m not sure how I ran without it.
- TSX Can be used as the Planetarium software for acquiring objects from in the Framing Wizard.
- TSX Will show what you’re pointing at and slewing to for any telescope operation.
- TSX T-Point modeling allows you to have powerful telescope guiding capabilities based on comprehensive mount modeling.
- TSX With Direct Guide & PEC training on Paramount mounts allows unguided and very precise tracking.
- TSX is required if you run a Paramount MX, MyT, or ME Mount.
Most importantly, TSX is very complimentary to NINA. With TheSkyX, you can image and do just about everything by running its built-in tools but, with NINA 1.11 and newer, the programmatic sequencer really extends the capability of TSX. It affords you robust imaging/sequencing automation, which wraps up the entire suite into a competent hands-off remote imaging system.
Again, You don’t NEED a Software Bisque Paramount MX, ME, or MyT to use TSX; you can run it to control any of your mounts and take advantage of many of its features we speak of in this guide.
- ASCOM 6.5 Installed – Download 6.5 SP1
- ASCOM Mount Drivers for your mount. NOTE: If you run a Paramount, the Ascom support drivers will be installed later since they require TSX to be installed.
- All Hardware/Camera drivers installed.
- NINA 1.11 Installed – Download latest Nightly Build
We assume that you have some basic experience with Windows, NINA and TSX to a certain degree but I have tried to cover everything in as much detail as I can. Please refer to the NINA docs or the TSX docs for specific information about your gear/setup/mount.
Go to your Software Bisque account, select Downloads and Download the two installers – FULL and Daily build.
You should download the base install (Full Installer) and then the Latest Daily Build Installer.
- Install and setup TheSkyX – Just click through the wizards and accept defaults. Nothing special here.
- Install and run Upgrade to Daily Build.
When you install TSX Full installer and the Latest daily build, you may see warnings like this:
You need to click the “More Info” link and then it changes to this:
Now you can click “Run Anyway”.
I hope Software Bisque can start signing the Windows versions so we don’t need to do this but it’s safe to click Run anyway and get everything installed. You will get prompted again to allow the installer to make changes, click Yes and finally the wizard for TheSkyX should run.
Click Accept agreement and Next
Now click finish.
There are a few necessary steps to get the basics of TSX up and running to control your mount as well as operate as a supported planetarium for NINA.
Setup TSX Location
When TSX is open, just double click on the Location Description box at the bottom and ensure that your location and time zone is set up correctly. It is imperative that Time, Latitude, and Longitude as well as elevation be configured for each location you image from.
TheSkyX NINA Planetarium Setup
Click Tools -> Click TCP Server
Ensure that “Listening for connections” is selected. This allows NINA to talk to TSX.
Setup your Telescope
Click Telescope -> telescope Setup
Configure your mount by clicking Mount Setup.
These are the basic options needed to get up and running. You should follow TheSky’s T-Point and direct guider as well as PEC tuning guides to set up those advanced features.
Install Paramount ASCOM Support
TSX works with many mounts out there, however, if you are running a Paramount MX/MyT/ME it’s now time to Download the ASCOM Drivers here: Ascom2XMount Adaptor Installer – Software Bisque and get them installed. If you use TSX+Tpoint – This driver is still required for any mount since this is what communicates to TSX (which in return communicates to your mount via native or ASCOM drivers it uses).
Launch the installer (Ascom2XMount-Adaptor-Installer)
Click Finish – I suggest you leave the view The Sky Ascom driver checked just to see the short setup guide (it reflects much of what we’ll covered here)
Run as Administrator
Just once, we have to run TSX as an administrator, to do this, right-click and choose run as administrator. You don’t have to do anything but run as administrator once and exit. This is necessary for something to install a scripting engine that the Ascom interface uses.
Open Start Bar -> Software Bisque -> Right Click on “TheSkyX” -> More -> Run as Administrator
Now that TSX is up and running, simply exit out. This run as administrator just lets TSX set up a scripting engine necessary for ASCOM drivers to work.
While 1.11 is currently still in preview release, it is the version of the software we’ll use in this guide. I find that even though there may be bugs, the capability and features introduced in 1.11 are absolutely necessary.
We’ll need to tell NINA our location, set up our planetarium link and configure out NINA ascom settings.
Configure location to match TSX
In NINA click Options -> General and fill in location under Astrometry setting
Please be sure to always make sure your location is correct in TSX and NINA before you use your equipment.
Configure NINA to use TheSkyX as Planatarium
Open/Tab to NINA, Click Options -> Equipment and choose TheSkyX
Set up ASCOM Telescope driver for TheSky
There are a few things you will want to be aware of when configuring the ASCOM Driver for TheSky
If you want to take advantage of TSX TPOINT Models, you want to make sure that you disable Sync’s in NINA and as a preventive measure, ensure that TheSky driver inhibits syncs to protect your TPOINT Model.
Options -> Equipment -> Telescope
Configure TSX Ascom
Now that you have selected the ASCOM driver, click the 3 gear icon to open the ASCOM settings
If you run a Paramount mount, you can run unguided sessions with the following settings.
Use DirectGuide should only be used if you have a Paramount mount and have enabled DirectGuide support. We explain what most of these checkboxes are down below in the Guided configuration setup. (It’s also in the PDF we recommended you read during install)
In NINA we’ll want to set up the Direct Guider.
Click Equipment -> Guider
Select “Direct Guider” in dropdown box and hit the power button to connect. (It will connect to scope as well.) We need to connect to complete direct Guider Setup.
Once you have connected, you can configure dithering. I do fairly large dithers of 20 pixels.
The “Direct Guider” method allows us to run unguided sessions and have the benefit of dithering. NINA will run the dithers per your sequencing options by slewing the camera however many pixels you define in a gaussian distribution around the center of the target.
TheSky Controlled Driver setup for use with Guide cams. We’ll assume you’re running NINA and PHD2 in this configuration.
- If you don’t use a Tpoint model, you can uncheck that.
- Can set tracking – allows NINA to start/stop tracking
- Mount can be parked – Allows NINA to send parking command in the post imaging sequence
- Slew start delay – is checked by default mostly because of cameras, I’m just leaving it default. YMMV.
- Enable tracking offsets – Allows changes to the tracking rate to be applied to both axis if your mount supports it. Required for Guiding.
- If you enable tracking offsets, you can enable PulseGuide – this is NOT required on Paramount mounts, but may be required on the popular EQ and CEM mounts.
- Can get Pointing State – If your mount supports side of pier, this will allow NINA to know which side of pier the mount is on. It is not necessary for operations but you can have it enabled in NINA to report side of pier.
If you want to have side of pier support, open NINA and click Options -> Imaging -> Side of Pier
Be sure to configure PHD2 to use the TheSky ASCOM driver for its mount too
Since you are setting up a new mount in PHD2, It is highly recommended that you run a full calibration run. You can find some great information in the PHD2 Best Practices PDF to fine-tune and tweak your guiding.
Sequencing with TSX & NINA
Now that everything is setup and connected, we’ll run you through the a basic sequence with NINA and TSX using TSX as our planetarium package.
The gist of using NINA with TheSky is as follows:
- Start TSX and Connect to Telescope
- Polar Align
- Start NINA
- Hit the power button to connect all devices
- Build sequence
Launch TheSky and Connect Telescope
Click Startup -> Connect Telescope
Once telescope is connected it should show green tracking off
Please see the TSX Guide for polar alignment. The process is pretty advanced and beyond the scope of this guide. BTW, we love TSX Polar alignment, it really is the gold standard of getting set up if you ask me. Especially with Paramount Mounts!
Once NINA is started, click the Power button to reconnect everything
Build a Sequence
You can build a sequence however you like, but for this example, I’ll show you how can find something in TSX and import it into NINA to show how the integrated planetarium software works.
Tab over to TSX
Open the “Find” Tab and lets search for Orion Nebula
Click the Find button
It should show up as NGC 1976 with a Green icon like this
Now that TSX has targeted the Orion Nebula, we can switch (tab) back to NINA.
In NINA, lets click on Framing, now we want to click the little Map icon next too Coordinates
NINA will now query TSX for the target and display it.
Once you click the target icon (circled above) it will query the catalog and find the object. I use the awesome HIPS 2 FITS Sky Survey myself.
Now let’s add this item to a sequence. Click the “Add Target to Sequence Button”
We’ll use “Simple Sequence” here so click “Simple Sequence”
Now the Simple Sequencer shows up and you can tweak settings as you wish or Just click Play to start imaging.
Obviously, as I wrote this blog and did the screenshots my time is not the right time to image, so just be sure your sequence time matches the objects time 🙂
All said and done, I find TSX and NINA to be a great combination. Both tools are powerful and complementary. I honestly feel even if I didn’t use a Paramount that TSX affords capability and powers that are great and useful that I’d recommend it for those with other mounts it supports.
As always, if you have any comments, questions, concerns, let us know and leave feedback below. Clear skies!
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6 thoughts on “Using NINA with TheSkyX (And Paramount Mounts)”
Great writeup! I just wanted to question something written under the heading of “Guiding” . You suggest checking the pulse guiding box for guiding a Paramount with The Sky Controlled Driver. When using a Paramount mount, I believe that it is proper to check the “Use Direct Guide” check box. This allows control of the mount using the functionality of the “direct guide” guiding methodology. Once again, great work.
Is it possible to use SKYX as the plate solve. I often do not have Internet at my observing sites. The SKYX plate solve is standalone no Internet required.
SkyX does have plate-solving but not in conjunction with Nina – The built-in NINA plate solvers support offline solving too.
Many thanks for sharing this tutorial. A question: is it possible to do autofocus in TSX under NINA?
Will NINA allow me to shoot a series of photos at intervals (ie 30 sec image every 60 sec . . repeat) if running TSX?
Hi Byron, thanks for your work here, great stuff.
I have a Bisque MyT and use TSX and I’d like to try NINA for its new 3 point PA. I have very limited sky time and am mobile so I’d like to not use TSX (APA) as a big tpoint is not real practical for me every night. Any advice to help make that happen ? Right now, I’m having trouble getting nina to be able to actually move the mount.